Showing posts with label death. Show all posts
Showing posts with label death. Show all posts

Sunday, March 3, 2013

Glenwood Gardens Assisted Living Center Will Stand Around And Watch You Die

So you've sent your elderly parents off to an assisted living center where you can rest peacefully knowing they're in good hands. They have nurses on staff and if anything were to happen, they'd be there to help. That is, unless the center you've taken them to is Glenwood Gardens Assisted Living Center in Bakersfield, California. In that case, if your loved one started choking or had trouble breathing and needed CPR, the staff would just stand around twiddling their thumbs. We do things different here at Glenwood Gardens. You're in good hands, unless something actually happens. Then you're fucked.

From turnto23.com:
 
Authorities say an elderly woman being cared for at a California retirement facility died after a nurse at the facility refused to perform CPR on the woman after she had collapsed.

On Feb. 26, an 87-year-old resident at Glenwood Gardens collapsed in a dining room.

According to reports, a staff member called 911 and 911 staff tried to get the caller to perform CPR on the woman.

During the 911 call, the caller refused to perform CPR. 

Watch news coverage and listen to the 911 call here:




Glenwood Gardens Assisted Living Center should be forced to write on their brochures and advertising that they will do nothing at all to help you if you need CPR. In fact, the whole place should really be shut down, but we don't want to deny access to those rare souls who might prefer such a place.

What a tragedy. Shame on those staff members who were heard on the call refusing to help. They'd rather go by the book and not break policy than save someone's life. May they suffer mental anguish for the rest of their lives knowing they allowed someone to die right in front of them.

Sunday, February 10, 2013

Following Dorner's Tracks: Mapped Out

With all the different incidents and their corresponding times and places, it's hard to grasp exactly what happened when in the ongoing Christopher Jordan Dorner story. A few news sources have put together useful timelines, and we've taken the important events from those and mapped out the movements of Dorner so it's easier to visualize.

Click on the map to see it in full size.

The most important events tracking his movements are this:

1.  Sunday, Feb. 3 Monica Quan and Keith Lawrence found dead in Lawrence's car in a parking garage at 2100 Scholarship, Irvine CA.

2.  Monday, Feb. 4 at 9:07 a.m. Dorner spotted on surveillance camera tossing evidence into a dumpster next to Platinum Auto Sports in National City, near San Diego. Address: 3280 Main St San Diego, California 92113.

3. Wednesday, Feb 6 at 10:30 p.m. Dorner attempts to steal a boat at the Southwest Marina near Shelter Island in San Diego.

4. Thursday, Feb 7 at 1:25 p.m. Dorner shoots at 2 LAPD officers in Corona, CA.

5. Thursday, Feb 7 police find a burned-out pickup truck near the Big Bear ski area in the San Bernardino Mountains.

As you can see, he started in Irvine, CA with the death of Monica Quan and her husband. He then drove south 1.5 hours to San Diego to throw evidence in a dumpster and 2 days later tried to take off on boat while still near San Diego. After the boat hijacking failed, he drove back up north 1.5 hours to Corona where he shot at LAPD officers. His last step that we know of was traveling 1.5 hours northeast near the San Bernardino Mountains, where his burned-up truck was found. Since then there's been no sign of Dorner.

Questions: Why was Dorner trying to toss away evidence in a dumpster? It's not like everyone doesn't already know that he's committed murder and it's not like if he were stopped by police unarmed he'd be let go. You'd think it would be in his interest to keep the most weaponry on him, as he seems intent on continuing to kill and evade the police, with the obvious conclusion of a Dorner going down fighting but ultimately ending up dead. Although, perhaps he had plans of boating to Mexico and arriving with no weapons or evidence, in disguise. The burning of his truck equally doesn't make sense. We already know of his murders and his weapons, what's the point of burning evidence? It makes sense that he'd want to part ways with his vehicle since police are on the lookout for it, but we don't see how burning it makes a difference one way or the other. Some are speculating that he did that in order to confuse the police, and that with each action he's taking it's some sophisticated calculated move. That's possible, but we doubt it. Our guess is that he found his way into some random unlucky person's home and is currently holding them hostage. It would be too stupid for him to hide out among friends or family.

We've read through the manifesto and it does sound convincing that maybe there were quite a bit of problems at the LAPD. However, the moment he starting killing innocent people is the moment he crossed the line, and no past injustice can justify that. Surely he could have gotten a job somewhere else, outside of law enforcement, and lived the rest of his life in peace.

Tuesday, November 29, 2011

Norway mass-murderer Anders Behring Breivik likely to avoid jail time


From cnn.com:
The man accused of killing 77 people in a terrorist rampage that shook Norway last summer is insane and cannot be sentenced to prison or preventive detention, but can be confined to a mental hospital for the rest of his life, police said Tuesday.
After 36 hours of police and psychiatrists interviewing Anders Breivik, they've reached the conclusion that Breivik was psychotic during the killings, opening the window to the likely possibility of him avoiding jail time altogether and spending the rest of his life in a mental hospital.

If this turns out to be the case it'll be one of the greatest injustices we've ever seen. We've taken the time to read through Brievik's 1,500 page manifesto and it's clear that the man was extremely calculated and thorough in all of his actions. It was probably the most "sane" and well put together manifestos we've ever seen, making it all the more scary. Usually when someone goes out in a blaze and they vent their grievances in a manifesto, it's full of mindless ramblings that only make sense to someone with an IQ lower than 30. But Behring knew exactly what he was doing and knew it was wrong - he had no illusions about it.

But does it really matter either way? When someone kills 77 people in a calculated mass execution, does it really matter what a couple therapists think about his state of mind? How does that really change anything? I suppose a mental hospital could help treat a person of mental illness and get them back to a state closer to "normal". But with a guy like this, what's the point? Is there going to be a day where they say "after a couple years of treatment, Breivik now realizes what he did was wrong, he has corrected his thinking, and now he'll be a productive member of society"? If that happens, where's the justice? Well great, he now knows it's wrong to kill people. Yeah it's too bad about the 77 dead, but we're sure glad Breivik now knows right from wrong.

In cases like this, we need to look at what the goals of justice are. The #1 priority here should be to keep guys like this off the streets and away from society. Whether or not he is able to reach a point of mental clarity or deal with his inner demons, that's really his concern and should not be the burden of society. And sure if you want to treat his psychological issues, have at it, but aren't there plenty of more worthy people with mental illnesses that it would make sense to focus on instead? And I think we should also keep in mind the possibility of escape - do you really think a mental hospital is as secure as a prison? Either lock him up and throw away the key or put him out of his misery so everyone can move on with their lives without him.

Sunday, November 27, 2011

Motive believed to be robbery in Craigslist killings

This whole story is really strange. So far 2 dead bodies have been found, and another man was shot but fortunately managed to escape. The 3 men all answered a posting on Craigslist, an opportunity to make some easy money living on a farm. There was no such farm, and the men were lead to property owned by a coal company that was often leased to hunters. As the men were told they would be moving to the farm to live, they brought all of their belongings with them. All a robbery scheme. But who could be so cold hearted as to kill random people just to take their stuff? And the perpetrators were preying on people who were down on their luck to begin with. How could anyone think it would be worth killing people just for a few boxes of their belongings and maybe a little cash? How long would that last someone, about a week? Then it's off to the next killing?

If evil does exist these people are it. And the story gets even stranger as we find out who the suspects are: 52 year old
"mentor" and church-goer Richard Beasley and 16 year old Brogan Rafferty, one of the kids Beasley was mentoring. ABC affiliate WEWS spoke to Richard Beasley's mother and she spoke highly of her son, adding that he would take Brogan fishing, play video games, and deliver food for the needy. Evidently they also spent time scheming up robbery murder plots.

Wednesday, November 23, 2011

A&M University fires band director after hazing incident


A&M University in Florida announced today that they will be firing band director Dr. Julian White after drum major Robert Champion died during a hazing incident on Saturday.

From 11alive.com:

Champion, 26, a graduate of Southwest DeKalb High School, died following the Florida Classic football game in Orlando last Saturday.

Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings said he suspects hazing is involved in Champion's death. In Florida, hazing is a third degree felony. Sheriff Demings said charges could be forthcoming.

This is a very sad story all around, but we can't help but wonder: how does a 26 year old man die in a college hazing incident? I mean isn't he a little old to be one of the guys getting hazed? At the very least shouldn't he be one of the guys doing the hazing?

Sunday, November 6, 2011

Buried Alive


Do you have a fear of being buried alive? For me it's probably more of a scary thought than something I truly worry about on a regular basis. But just imagine for a moment waking up and realizing you're in a box several feet underground. There's not much room for you to move around in or adjust your position, you're pretty much stuck there until you die. Any efforts on your part to try to save yourself are really just a waste of energy. And this would probably be the hardest part about it: your body will immediately go into panic mode and you'll start pushing as hard as you can with your hands and trying to kick with your feet. But being in such a tight enclosure and lying on your back, you really don't have enough leverage to really accomplish anything. So which is the best course of action, to keep kicking and pushing for hours until you die? Or to attempt to control your body, to tell yourself to relax, accept your fate, close your eyes and realize there's nothing you can do?

It seems to me that the best option is to try to calm yourself down and lay there peacefully, because the more you try to push yourself out of that position the more frustrated and panicked you're going to become. But it could be that it's simply impossible for most people to just lay there and take it calmly, perhaps our instincts would take over and not listen to our mind telling the body to relax. It would be a struggle not so much to escape, but a struggle to calm the mind and body.

It might seem silly today to think about the prospect of being buried alive but there was a time where it was a real possibility.

From Wikipedia:

Before the advent of modern medicine, the fear was not entirely irrational. Throughout history, there have been numerous cases of people being buried alive by accident. In 1905, the English reformer William Tebb collected accounts of premature burial. He found 219 cases of near live burial, 149 actual live burials, 10 cases of live dissection and 2 cases of awakening while being embalmed
It also mentions that people who could afford it arranged to be buried in a "safety" coffin, which had bells and other means to alert those on the outside they were still alive, along with pipes delivering oxygen. It's a good idea, however wouldn't it just be easier to wait a couple days before burying the body?

Snopes.com has some very sad stories involving premature burial, many of them during epidemics where people were dying left and right from various illnesses.
Some instances were especially heartbreaking. In the 1850s, a young girl visiting Edisto Island, South Carolina, died of diphtheria. She was quickly interred in a local family's mausoleum because it was feared the disease might otherwise spread. When one of the family's sons died in the Civil War, the tomb was opened to admit him. A tiny skeleton was found on the floor just behind the door.


There's an organization "Monochrom: Experience the Experience" which did a project on being buried alive, you could experience it yourself for 15 minutes! Sounds like a blast. More information and pictures here.

Wednesday, October 26, 2011

Middle-Easterner stuffs camel into the back of his car

Our WTF video of the day....this is both disturbing and amusing at the same time. The camel's resistance in the beginning seems to indicate that he's been through this before. I would think putting him in the backseat would be a more humane way to do it - the camel wouldn't be as scared and there would be plenty of breathing room, he could just poke his head out the window. One thing is for sure: this camel would make a great death metal vocalist.

Wednesday, March 30, 2011

More on Anthony/Edward Cingoranelli


Our more thorough entries on Rogers and Cingoranelli:


If you have any more information on either Time Rogers, William Rogers, Anthony Edward Cingoranelli, or Meds IV, send us an e-mail at peoplelikingpeople@yahoo.com.

Alabama Deaths: Judge Orders Meds IV To Preserve Evidence

Shelby County Circuit Judge Conwill has just ordered Meds IV to preserve any evidence related to the nutrition IVs linked to the 9 deaths in Alabama. The order came after Baptist Health Systems filed a lawsuit earlier today.

From al.com:

Conwill issued a temporary restraining order that requires parties involved with the company to preserve the evidence after Baptist Health System and Shelby Baptist Medical Center filed a lawsuit Wednesday evening in Shelby Circuit Court.

The hospital system says in its suit that it had attempted to contact the Meds IV to ask it to preserve the evidence, but had not gotten a response. Cingroranelli is identified in the suit as the owner of the company, while Rogers is identified as its president.

Interesting. Kudos to Baptist Health systems for filing this suit. It appears that Meds IV are hiding under their desks. Someone needs to step in and take action on-sight to make sure no evidence is destroyed immediately. Also, we see now that Tim Rogers is the president, and a man named Edward Cingoranelli is the owner. Cingoranelli...we've heard that name before. Ah yes, MedworksRx, the company Tim Rogers listed in his LinkedIn profile as being a partner, is owned by Anthony Cingoranelli. It's starting to look like Meds IV, MedworksRx, and possibly PalliRx are run by all the same people. And then there's the connection to Advanced Specialty Pharmacy, where Tim Rogers is a co-founder with William Rodgers.

Update 1:

Ok, Anthony Cingoranelli and Edward Cingoranelli are the same person. His full name is Edward Anthony Cingoranelli. Mr Cingoranelli is also listed as a principle for Advanced Specialty Pharmacy.

Who is Tim Rogers of Meds IV?

We're going to start looking further into Tim Rogers, the man behind Meds IV, the compounding pharmacy that produced the nutrition IVs that resulted in 9 deaths in Alabama. There isn't much to be found on Meds IV at this point. They were hardly referenced at all online before the incident, there was no address listed on the website (which has since been taken down), and a search for the phone number on their site turned up nothing. We're taking this to mean it's either a fairly new company or they purposefully stayed under the radar. Update: We now learn that Meds IV has only been operating for 1 year. So to look into this more we'll be looking into the President of Meds IV Tim Rogers. As we find out more, we will continue to update this page. If there's not much here at the moment it's because it's still a work in process, stay tuned.

Tim Rogers is listed on the Alabama Society of Health-System Pharmacists board of directors site as the immediate past president of the organization.

What I find it interesting that he's the only one listed on the entire page that isn't a pharmacist or doctor. Go down the line and you see Pharm.D and Ph.D. With Tim Rogers there is no such title and simply mentions "Advanced Specialty Pharmacy, Inc."

Tim Rogers has just taken his LinkedIn profile down. We viewed it earlier today but when we try to go back now it says "We’re sorry, but the profile you requested does not exist." Fortunately we were able to save a copy.



A copy of his profile is below. I want to point out that while this may look like a big resume and list of accomplishments, many are very recent and look like projects he had been trying to start as opposed to established companies. And he's listed companies he is partnered with, not necessarily ones he owns or works for. Meds IV has only been operating for 1 year, MedworksRx (owned by Anthony Cingoranelli, dispensing at Drs. offices) he's been a partner with only 1 year, and PalliRx (a repackager, owned by Micah J Russell) a partner only 2 years. These 3 companies may have been leveraged to work together, for example PalliRx could become a distribution channel for Meds IV. The bulk of his work history is Advanced Specialty Pharmacy where he is an officer (owned by William Rogers), and Cardinal Health, one of the big 3 medical wholesalers.

Tim Rogers's Summary

Starting and operating nuclear pharmacies.
Starting and managing specialty IV compounding pharmacies.
Cardioplegia solutions.
TPN Solutions
Intrathecal Pumps Medications
Pharmaceutical Repackaging

Tim Rogers's Experience

President

Meds IV, Inc

Pharmaceuticals industry

2010Present (1 year)

Meds IV, Inc is a pharmaceutical company focused in delivering complex compounded sterile products to hospitals and physician offices including intrathecal pump medication refills and schedule II epidural and PCA products.
TPN/Cardiopelgia/Anesthesia Syringes/Oxytocin

Partner

MedWorksRx

Pharmaceuticals industry

2010Present (1 year)

MedWorksRx develops and manages retail pharmacy operations.

Partner

PalliRx, Inc

Privately Held; Pharmaceuticals industry

January 2009Present (2 years 3 months)

Pharmaeutical Repackager

Officer

Advanced Specialty Pharmacy

Pharmaceuticals industry

2005Present (6 years)

Nuclear Pharmacy Services

Immed-Past-President

Alabama Society of Health Systems Pharmacists

Pharmaceuticals industry

October 2009October 2010 (1 year 1 month)

President of the Alabama affiliate of ASHP

RVP

Cardinal Health

Pharmaceuticals industry

19992004 (5 years)

Lead the South East Region of Nuclear Pharmacy Services division of Cardinal Health.

Tim Rogers's Education

Samford University

BS Pharmacy, Pharmacy

19871990

Tim Rogers's Additional Information

Groups and Associations:

ASHP, AlSHP, Birmingham Emmaus Community

Honors and Awards:

2007 Birmingham Top 40 under 40

Update 1: We've found a lawsuit back in 2006 that was eventually dismissed. Cardinal Health had been suing Advanced Specialty Pharmacy.

From ereleases.com:

Advanced Specialty Pharmacy, LLC (ASP) today announced that litigation initiated by Cardinal Health 414, Inc. ("Cardinal") against ASP and related parties has been amicably resolved.

The original lawsuit (Case No. 2006-CV-2305) was filed on April 28, 2006, in the United States District Court, Eastern District of Louisiana.

Advanced Specialty’s counter-claim filed in this litigation against Cardinal that asserted violations of various federal and state antitrust laws will also be dismissed as part of the settlement.

Although the terms of settlement are to remain confidential between the parties, Advanced Specialty Pharmacy will continue to serve its nuclear pharmacy customers in all of its existing markets. "ASP envisions rapid future growth in these markets based on our business model of very competitive pricing and a responsiveness to customer needs that large national companies cannot match," stated Tim Rogers, a co-founder of ASP.

We will be looking into the initial claim by Cardinal against Advanced Specialty Pharmacy but take a look at the timing of it: This dismissal is from October 2006, the initial claim probably some time in 2005. Tim Rogers worked at Cardinal until 2004 and co-founded Advanced Specialty Pharmacy in 2005. We're thinking the litigation may have been regarding Tim Rogers violating a non-compete clause he had with Cardinal, especially since his counter suit asserted that Cardinal violated antitrust laws.


Compounding Pharmacy "Meds IV" Connected to 9 Deaths

Nine people have died in Atlanta, GA following an IV treatment. And the 9 deaths (19 outbreaks total) spanned across 6 different hospitals, so it isn't an issue with a particular hospital having a contamination or problem not following procedure. The common denominator? They all received a Nutrition IV from "Meds IV", a compounding pharmacy. It was found that the deaths were caused by a bacteria called Serratia marcescens.

from gbp.org:

The Alabama Department of Public Health said it first learned of the problem on March 16, when two hospitals in the state notified officials of patients with bloodstream infections.

The cases of bacteremia were caused by Serratia marcescens, a germ that produces bright bright red colonies. The bacterium was identified and named in Italy in the early 1800s, after it was found to be turning polenta blood-red.
This event will no doubt raise questions about quality control at compounding pharmacies. Unlike most pharmacies, compounding pharmacies make most of the solutions they dispense themselves. This provides a value for patients that require custom made ointments, oral solutions, and IVs. But it does make it more difficult to ensure the dosage and quality. Instead of mass producing thousands of the same pill on a daily basis as a pharmaceutical manufacturer might do which could be more easily monitored and controlled, compounding pharmacies produce their medications only when a particular patient has a need for it. They're made to order. So one minute a pharmacist is making an oral solution, the next minute the same pharmacist could be producing a completely different inhalant powder.

We tried visiting the website of "Meds IV" but it appears they've recently taken the site down in light of the allegations. We were able to view a cached version before it was removed (click on image to view full size):





Their most important asset is their reputation...well, I guess that's all gone to shit. If customer satisfaction is guaranteed, what does that mean if they kill you? Do they bring you back to life?

We're trying to find more information about Meds IV, they don't appear to be that well known with much of a presence. They don't even list an address on their website and a search for their phone number 205-837-0899 turns up nothing.

Update:

We have found the president of Meds IV, Tim Rogers.



click on image to view full size.

There is next to nothing to be found about Meds IV, besides the latest articles. We're guessing this was a very small operation that was fairly new with not a lot of customers. Perhaps he offered the hospitals a steep discount to get his foot in the door. It could be that there are some legal issues with compounding pharmacies selling to hospitals. It is standard practice for a compounding pharmacy to make medications for a particular patient. But when they start producing it in bulk to resell to hospitals and aren't seeing any patients at all, that could be a problem. Instead of being a pharmacy they're getting into manufacturer territory and need to be treated and regulated as such.

Update 2: Was the Parenteral Nutrition I.V. a hard to find item (HTF)?

If you look at the list of products that were displayed on Meds IV's website, you may or may not notice that many of them are items that are in short supply. Heparin and Promethazine for example have had supply issues for quite some time now. It appears that indeed there were supply issues with the parenteral nutrition I.V., from nutritioncare.org:

Parenteral Nutrition Product Shortages

There is a growing and critical shortage of electrolyte and mineral injections needed for parenteral nutrition. We have heard from many consumer groups, healthcare systems, and clinicians regarding their short supplies or inability to obtain these products. The seriousness of this shortage has the potential to be similar to that of intravenous (IV) multivitamins, which resulted in significant complications and some deaths.
Compounding & The Hard-To-Find Market

People Liking People actually have a little experience in the little known hard to find market of hospital pharmaceuticals/I.V.s. Different medications go in short supply all the time. There's only so much supply to go around, and sometimes there's not enough to meet the demand, whether it's a raw material shortage, a legal issue, or manufacturing problem. Well some medications are absolutely vital and when you have a patient dying on a hospital bed, the hospital will try to do whatever they can to find the medication that they need. And they're also willing to pay a lot more for that medication. This sets the stage for the hard to find market.

The hard to find market consists of many distributors that make their money off these shortage problems. They get wind that a product is going to go short, so they stock up as many as they can at the low price from a variety of suppliers and manufacturers. They may either flip them to another distributor for a quick profit, or wait for the market price to quadruple and sell them to hospitals for much higher. It doesn't always go as planned, so there's a lot of guessing and risk/reward calculating going on.

Well for some medications there simply isn't any product left, even the hard to find distributors don't have any. Hospital pharmacists are calling all the suppliers they can think of and no one is able to get their hands on it. This sets the stage for the compounding pharmacy to enter the hard to find market. When the hospitals have run out, their primary wholesaler has run out, the manufacturer isn't able to produce much more, and the hard to find distributors can't get their hands on any, the compounding pharmacist is the only other option in creating availability, and they then take advantage of this situation and sell their compounded product at ridiculously high profit margins. Something that might cost $4 to make could be sold for $1,000.

It appears to us now that this isn't just your average compounding pharmacy that's just helping out and serving hospitals from time to time. It may be that their whole business revolves around these shortages. Not that that's necessarily an evil business model, but like I said before when you start compounding on a massive scale you go from compounder to manufacturer. And I'm willing to bet that Tim Rogers and whoever else ran Meds IV just wasn't up to the task. Every week they're probably making something new that the week before hadn't even heard of. It's short? Ok let's make it. They don't specialize in a group of particular meds, they switch between what's selling and what's not at the blink of an eye. So if that's truly the model it's no wonder that their quality control wasn't exactly up to par.

Sunday, March 27, 2011

People Liking People Presents: The Jonestown Shuffle

People Liking People produced "The Jonestown Shuffle" back in 2009 but soon after publishing the track we found ourselves having to pull the plug on the project after it was banned in several countries. After much debate over the past couple of months, we've decide to re-release it and say the hell with it to those want to silence free speech. We present to you, "The Jonestown Shuffle (if we can't live in peace then let's die in peace)". Crank this one up folks, it's got a good beat you can dance to.



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Saturday, March 26, 2011

Dr. Drew Pinsky: Why is he given a free pass?


It seems to be fairly common knowledge that most of the celebrity/publicity whore/radio/tv doctors you see and hear are for the most part just talking heads that make a living out of giving quick advice and talking about being a doctor more than actually being one. People have long shrugged off any chance of Dr. Laura being a legitimate source of health or psychiatric information, and everyone by now knows that Dr. Phil isn't a licensed psychologist. But very rarely do you ever hear criticism of the "all-knowing" Dr. Drew Pinsky.

We here at People Liking People used to listen to Dr. Drew along with Adam Carolla on LoveLine back in the 90s. We'd hear him covering topics ranging from puberty, drug use, relationship problems, sexual health, physical disorders, the effects of child abuse and just about everything in between that callers would ask about. It was hard to tell exactly where his expertise lie because he seemed to profess a thorough knowledge on just about everything. We did enjoy the show, which Adam Carolla made a lot more entertaining by his presence, but we started to wonder, just how qualified is this Dr. Drew to make all these quick judgments in just about every topic? Everyone has a specialty, I don't believe someone can have all the answers on every subject. So when someone appears to do just that, we tend to think they might be blowing a bit of smoke about how professional their advice is.

Dr. Drew has enjoyed a long and successful career with Loveline, being the go-to expert for talk shows, and now VH1's hit show "Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew". It's this latest drug rehabilitation show that has begun to illustrate the limitations of the respected doctor. Earlier this month former bass player for Alice In Chains Mike Starr died of an overdose from a mix of methadone and anxiety meds. A year ago Mike Starr had appeared on Dr. Drew's Celebrity Rehab show and became one of the show's success stories. While we certainly can't blame Dr. Drew for Starr's death, it does make one question the effectiveness of Dr. Drew and his Pasadena Recovery Center where the show is filmed. Just how much of this is showbiz and how much is actual treatment, and actual medical advice? And that question should be applied to Dr. Drew's career as a whole, not just this latest stint. It could be that his actual expertise and treatment is subpar and has been all along, it's just now more noticeable because the stakes are much higher and someone semi-famous has died after his treatment.

We can't help but wonder why all other television/radio doctors are dismissed for what they are, yet Dr. Drew continues with barely any criticism. Will Mike's Starr's death finally wake people up to the fact that you simple can't treat someone fully during a week or 2 show? Or fix a psychiatric problem is a couple of minutes? Why are we treating all of these serious problems like a circus act? It may have been fun for a while but when people start dying it's time to rethink what we're doing.